Zaishen Chest Drop rate - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

Rak Orgon of Beowulf · Mar 12, 2009, 08:43 AM // 08:43

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Originally Posted by silavor

the z-chest is NOT a gold sink, because it does NOT remove money from the game! It just re-arranges where the current in-game gold is located.

you think that the people who end up getting an everlasting and selling it dont get FoW armor or something? its a gold sink that leads to other gold sinks.

to OP, dont buy zkeys, its dumb, just PvP and do Xunlai house, then you're not actually losing any money on the chest.

wire dawg · Mar 12, 2009, 08:49 AM // 08:49

rofl at 28k and complaining geez have used over 1350 keys and not a damn thing and i known some first key ever beattle tonic before the monthly tonics came out so just be glad that all u spent is 28k

Raven Wing · Mar 12, 2009, 10:02 AM // 10:02

I have spent 266 keys now, most of them earned from torunament predictions, zaishen trap and jade quarry. On the first 200 keys I got several valuable goldies and elite tomes and earned around half the value back. After the 200th key I got utter crap, most valuable item was a lockpick. It isnt worth it unless you have BIG excess cash or earn many keys yourself. I just do it because I like the gamble, maybe I will one day get that everlasting hehe.
Oh yes and im grinding jq for title, using the keys from that ofc.

Sword Hammer Axe · Mar 12, 2009, 10:42 AM // 10:42

<---- spend 500 k on z-chest with only 1 good drop ever (got celestial sword r9 insc that I sold modded as a caster sword for 35 k). Even so I don't complain. I love the z-chest ^^

Arduin · Mar 12, 2009, 12:06 PM // 12:06

It's the journey that counts, not the destination.

At least, that's what I'm telling myself after yet another Cr??me Brul??e spree.

imnotyourmother · Mar 12, 2009, 12:31 PM // 12:31

Well you people are not going to like me at all.

I have never used a key or owned one. I saw the everlasting that I WANTED and you guessed it...and very soon to spend my stash on the everlasting that I want. The older ones are starting to go down in price woot.

Circus Midget · Mar 12, 2009, 12:53 PM // 12:53

To the OP: Everyone who uses a lot of keys on the chest loses money. Ask almost anyone, "I used 60 keys and didn't even get 9 eternal blades wow i'm unlucky."

I've gotten an everlasting from it before, but that still doesn't pay for the other hundreds of keys. Don't use the zchest 4 times and expect to get anything good.

Diao Xiao · Mar 12, 2009, 12:55 PM // 12:55

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Originally Posted by Arduinna

It's the journey that counts, not the destination.

At least, that's what I'm telling myself after yet another Cr??me Brul??e spree.

I agree on this. Ive spend over 10 mill on the zrank, never got an everlasting or eternal blade. Some other ok drops like celestial compass, Draconic Aegis.

But I don't care about the drops. When I go out to open the chest, we have and 8/8 team. My friends will join me and we will laugh at all the drops. It's just the fun behind it.

Besides, the profit I would make of the drops, I would buy more keys from it anyways.

_Nihilist_ · Mar 12, 2009, 01:05 PM // 13:05

The Z-Chest has an awesome drop rate. Its chance to spawn someone hoping to make it rich off a single Z-Key is astoundingly close to 100%, didn't ya know?

In all honesty, you gamble on the Z-Chest because you want to gamble on the Z-Chest. Any other reason to gamble on the Z-Chest is folly, futile, and usually results in fail on an epic scale. Case in point, every time I have gone to the Z-Chest hoping to "get a good drop" I get 49% Firewater, 49% Brulee, 2% merchable crap; any time I have gone to the Z-Chest to open it just because I have a Z-Key and I'm going to open the Z-Chest (since that's what keys are for, unlocking the correct lock, yea?) I've gotten a better yield of golds, tomes, and Elite tomes.

Just how things have worked for me, take it or leave it, your call...

Pleikki · Mar 12, 2009, 01:20 PM // 13:20

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Originally Posted by jiggles

its a gamble, you know what a gamble is right? I've spent 434k on it so far, most expensive thing i got sold for about 100k+9e. So yeah your 28k aint that much to be complaining about

i used 1000zkeys best i had was worth 30k, so yea its gamble, well will never use zchest again

Archress Shayleigh · Mar 12, 2009, 02:05 PM // 14:05

Lol dude i will only ask you this:
Why are you posting this? I mean, you ARE kind of being a cry-baby about 28k... i'm really sorry man, but that's bullshit. i mean, there are ppl who spent over 1m for those keys, and got barely nothing back! don't cry about that

REDdelver · Mar 12, 2009, 03:18 PM // 15:18

Human beings are just amazing to me. Intelligence wise we are absolutely the highest on the food chain. But then you have this....

Quote:

Repeat after me:

I WILL NEVER MAKE MONEY OFF THE ZAISHEN CHEST AND AM AN IDIOT FOR TRYING.

Wts thinking.

If you really use your head, the general flow of money in to one's lap is relatively the same percentage wise across the whole game. There are ways to make money faster than others, (excluding multiple accts for xunlai tourney predictions: NOTICE i did say "GAME" singular) but for the most part the time it takes to play and make a decent amount of money is in a relatively small percentage range. With that said, the zchest is certainly included. (Excluded is selling the keys via multiple accts) Even with multiple accts, it is very easy to go thru 1000-2000 zkeys and get back very little. They certainly didnt create the zchest as a "cash cow."

Back to my whole people are higher on the food chain, people do what they want to do because they can use their own brains to figure out how they want to spend their money. I think back on how much money ive spent on zkeys and i dont care. I dont have anything else really to spend it on, so why not. A lot of other people are in teh same boat. So you cant really make assumptions that certain people have been hit with the "idiot stick," unless you know more information/their situation.
But then again, thats what forums were designed for right? Someone has a thought, then let the "flame rain" start pouring....but the moment is gone. Could have helped someone instead of slapping them around.

GG to all the people who actually try to put in helpful thoughts and ideas.

dilan155 · Mar 12, 2009, 08:02 PM // 20:02

i got to r1 in the title stopped using them and started selling them. you wanna make money? stop using them and start selling them.

FengShuiDove · Mar 12, 2009, 08:33 PM // 20:33

I made money off the chest after about 200 keys 'cause I got lucky and hit 2 Everlastings in 1 month. It was incredibly lucky and it will not happen again. Here's my advice:

-If at ANY point you have turned a profit on the chest, quit while you're ahead unless you have loose cash and know what you're spending it on. Notice I say spending, not investing.

-If you want profit (and if 28k is a big deal), you should sell all of your keys. Think about this too, keys are dropping in price pretty consistently... sell 100 keys now and buy 100 keys 2 months from now and you'll have more money than you started with.

KIDGOOCH · Mar 12, 2009, 08:38 PM // 20:38

I'm not worried about the Zaishan title so I sell my keys to a chest runner (Za Hathor, who has a notice in services under his name). He pays me for the keys and I get to keep all drops, he has opened 300+ chests for me so far with no problems or scamming issues whatsoever. Check him out if you are just worried about what comes out of the chests and not the title.

Dante the Warlord · Mar 12, 2009, 08:39 PM // 20:39

Why did they drop so much? I just spent 90z keys for a r12 eternal blade.... He was asking for ecto but I gave him z-keys cause I had none. Maybe I should look for him now and give some z-keys back...

REDdelver · Mar 12, 2009, 09:13 PM // 21:13

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Why did they drop so much?

Because its slowly becoming a buyers market. More and more people are doing the Xunlai predictions...more and more people are doing multiple accts for the predictions = more & more flooding of keys.

More keys (more supply)...demand goes down since less are buying by actually doing the predictions (less demand) = Prices drop.

Letale · Mar 12, 2009, 09:38 PM // 21:38

This Title is not MEANT to be a PvE title, so no its not a money pit, its not a cash sink, it was never INTENDED to be purchased with gold, thats just a side effect of someone having what someone else wants. It takes 20,000 keys to max the title, the only people that will get that easily enough are people heavy into PvP, that are rolling in balthazar faction, and are winning GvG tournaments and able to buy 900 of the damn things at a time. If you play PvE, this title wasn't meant for you, and you will waste massive amounts of time trying to obtain it (but hey im not saying its not worth doing if thats what you want to do). Its sad that even the people that are most dedicated to this title and boast about dropping 500k or over a mil on keys and have sunk 2000 keys into the chest are hardly 10% there, give it up, its not worth it, its not meant for you.

byteme! · Mar 13, 2009, 12:19 AM // 00:19

I've opened the Zchest 3 times at most. I figured there was no way in hell anyone could make money off the chest without some sick luck. So instead of losing 3.5-5k per key to the chest I sold each and every single one of my keys. The end result?

I have more cash then I would if I had gambled on the chest. I don't fancy emotes. They don't feed my epeen nor do I even care for minor things that have zero effect on my game play. I've had people flash their emotes at me. My reply usually has something to do with, "At least I'm not broke

".

R0 Zaishen = I still have cash and that damn chest can't do anything about it.

R12 Zaishen = I used to have cash... /uninstall

Mar 12, 2009, 10:02 AM // 10:02	#23
Raven Wing Jungle Guide Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI] Profession: N/	I have spent 266 keys now, most of them earned from torunament predictions, zaishen trap and jade quarry. On the first 200 keys I got several valuable goldies and elite tomes and earned around half the value back. After the 200th key I got utter crap, most valuable item was a lockpick. It isnt worth it unless you have BIG excess cash or earn many keys yourself. I just do it because I like the gamble, maybe I will one day get that everlasting hehe. Oh yes and im grinding jq for title, using the keys from that ofc. Last edited by Raven Wing; Mar 12, 2009 at 10:06 AM // 10:06.. Reason: adding a sentence

Mar 12, 2009, 01:05 PM // 13:05	#29
_Nihilist_ Will Bull's Strike for $! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Isle of the Dead	The Z-Chest has an awesome drop rate. Its chance to spawn someone hoping to make it rich off a single Z-Key is astoundingly close to 100%, didn't ya know? In all honesty, you gamble on the Z-Chest because you want to gamble on the Z-Chest. Any other reason to gamble on the Z-Chest is folly, futile, and usually results in fail on an epic scale. Case in point, every time I have gone to the Z-Chest hoping to "get a good drop" I get 49% Firewater, 49% Brulee, 2% merchable crap; any time I have gone to the Z-Chest to open it just because I have a Z-Key and I'm going to open the Z-Chest (since that's what keys are for, unlocking the correct lock, yea?) I've gotten a better yield of golds, tomes, and Elite tomes. Just how things have worked for me, take it or leave it, your call... __________________ Warrior for Hire

Mar 12, 2009, 09:38 PM // 21:38	#38
Letale Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Jade Quarry Guild: Abusing The Jade Quarry Profession: A/	This Title is not MEANT to be a PvE title, so no its not a money pit, its not a cash sink, it was never INTENDED to be purchased with gold, thats just a side effect of someone having what someone else wants. It takes 20,000 keys to max the title, the only people that will get that easily enough are people heavy into PvP, that are rolling in balthazar faction, and are winning GvG tournaments and able to buy 900 of the damn things at a time. If you play PvE, this title wasn't meant for you, and you will waste massive amounts of time trying to obtain it (but hey im not saying its not worth doing if thats what you want to do). Its sad that even the people that are most dedicated to this title and boast about dropping 500k or over a mil on keys and have sunk 2000 keys into the chest are hardly 10% there, give it up, its not worth it, its not meant for you. Last edited by Letale; Mar 12, 2009 at 09:41 PM // 21:41..

Mar 13, 2009, 12:19 AM // 00:19	#39
byteme! Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: On Earth Profession: W/P	I've opened the Zchest 3 times at most. I figured there was no way in hell anyone could make money off the chest without some sick luck. So instead of losing 3.5-5k per key to the chest I sold each and every single one of my keys. The end result? I have more cash then I would if I had gambled on the chest. I don't fancy emotes. They don't feed my epeen nor do I even care for minor things that have zero effect on my game play. I've had people flash their emotes at me. My reply usually has something to do with, "At least I'm not broke ". R0 Zaishen = I still have cash and that damn chest can't do anything about it. R12 Zaishen = I used to have cash... /uninstall Last edited by byteme!; Mar 13, 2009 at 12:21 AM // 00:21..

Mar 12, 2009, 08:49 AM // 08:49	#22
wire dawg Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2008 Guild: happy guild moor [hgm] Profession: E/	rofl at 28k and complaining geez have used over 1350 keys and not a damn thing and i known some first key ever beattle tonic before the monthly tonics came out so just be glad that all u spent is 28k

Mar 12, 2009, 10:42 AM // 10:42	#24
Sword Hammer Axe Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Look up. Guild: Kurzick Conflagration Unit [KCU]. Profession: W/	<---- spend 500 k on z-chest with only 1 good drop ever (got celestial sword r9 insc that I sold modded as a caster sword for 35 k). Even so I don't complain. I love the z-chest ^^

Mar 12, 2009, 12:06 PM // 12:06	#25
Arduin Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Netherlands Guild: Limburgse Jagers [LJ] Profession: R/	It's the journey that counts, not the destination. At least, that's what I'm telling myself after yet another Cr??me Brul??e spree.

Mar 12, 2009, 12:31 PM // 12:31	#26
imnotyourmother Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: in a house Guild: The Knitters Guild Profession: W/R	Well you people are not going to like me at all. I have never used a key or owned one. I saw the everlasting that I WANTED and you guessed it...and very soon to spend my stash on the everlasting that I want. The older ones are starting to go down in price woot.

Mar 12, 2009, 12:53 PM // 12:53	#27
Circus Midget Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Right behind you Profession: A/	To the OP: Everyone who uses a lot of keys on the chest loses money. Ask almost anyone, "I used 60 keys and didn't even get 9 eternal blades wow i'm unlucky." I've gotten an everlasting from it before, but that still doesn't pay for the other hundreds of keys. Don't use the zchest 4 times and expect to get anything good.

Mar 12, 2009, 02:05 PM // 14:05	#31
Archress Shayleigh Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Guild Hall Profession: R/	Lol dude i will only ask you this: Why are you posting this? I mean, you ARE kind of being a cry-baby about 28k... i'm really sorry man, but that's bullshit. i mean, there are ppl who spent over 1m for those keys, and got barely nothing back! don't cry about that

Mar 12, 2009, 08:02 PM // 20:02	#33
dilan155 Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2007 Location: living room Profession: N/	i got to r1 in the title stopped using them and started selling them. you wanna make money? stop using them and start selling them.

Mar 12, 2009, 08:33 PM // 20:33	#34
FengShuiDove Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2007 Guild: Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] Profession: A/	I made money off the chest after about 200 keys 'cause I got lucky and hit 2 Everlastings in 1 month. It was incredibly lucky and it will not happen again. Here's my advice: -If at ANY point you have turned a profit on the chest, quit while you're ahead unless you have loose cash and know what you're spending it on. Notice I say spending, not investing. -If you want profit (and if 28k is a big deal), you should sell all of your keys. Think about this too, keys are dropping in price pretty consistently... sell 100 keys now and buy 100 keys 2 months from now and you'll have more money than you started with.

Mar 12, 2009, 08:38 PM // 20:38	#35
KIDGOOCH Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MD Profession: R/Mo	I'm not worried about the Zaishan title so I sell my keys to a chest runner (Za Hathor, who has a notice in services under his name). He pays me for the keys and I get to keep all drops, he has opened 300+ chests for me so far with no problems or scamming issues whatsoever. Check him out if you are just worried about what comes out of the chests and not the title.

Mar 12, 2009, 08:39 PM // 20:39	#36
Dante the Warlord Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: W/R	Why did they drop so much? I just spent 90z keys for a r12 eternal blade.... He was asking for ecto but I gave him z-keys cause I had none. Maybe I should look for him now and give some z-keys back...